[remote or in person; 10am-1:30pm] 2025 Chicago budget hearing: Chicago Fire Department

Chicago City Council
Finance

Tuesday, Nov. 19, 2024
10:00 a.m. — 1:30 p.m. CST

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121 N La Salle St Chicago, IL 60602 (Directions)

City Hall, 2nd floor, Council Chambers

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Reporting

Edited and summarized by the Chicago - IL Documenters Team

Note-taking by Brooke Greene

The Chicago Fire Department says is engaged in an aggressive recruitment outreach program to youth of color to combat the lack of diversity in the fire department.

Live reporting by Caeli Kean

The Chicago Fire Department says is engaged in an aggressive recruitment outreach program to youth of color to combat the lack of diversity in the fire department.

Caeli Kean @keancaeli
Good morning, I'll be covering today's 2025 Chicago Budget Hearing for the Chicago Fire Department, for @CHIdocumenters

10:24 AM Nov 19, 2024 CST

Caeli Kean @keancaeli 2/35
See the 2025 Chicago Fire Department Budget Recommendations here, on page 356: #ChiDocumenters @CHIDocumenters chicago.gov/content/dam/ci…
chicago.gov/content/dam/ci…
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 3/35
@CHIdocumenters Fire Commissioner Annette Nance-Holt began with an overview presentation of CFD's budget. The floor is now open for alders to pose questions to the commissioner.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 4/35
@CHIdocumenters 3rd ward Alder Pat Dowell expresses concern over possible medical leave abuse. Dowell says she learned there were over 237 fire personnel on lay-up (or medical status), amounting to around 5% of the dept. At the same time, Dowell says, their overtime cost has gone up.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 5/35
@CHIdocumenters Alder Dowell asks if a data analyst will be hired for the department, and the commissioner confirms that a data analyst is under the recommendations for new hires in 2025.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 6/35
@CHIdocumenters Ald. Dowell asks about whether CFD's contract accounts for more personnel in ambulances and trucks, and the paramedic shortage. Nance-Holt responds that she can't speak on Local 2 negotiations, but that CFD does need more personnel in the trucks, to account for injury + time off.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 7/35
@CHIdocumenters 1st Ward Alder La Spata noted 2023 expenditures for overtime was around $77 million. La Spata points out the 2025 budget for only half the year is $45 million, and asks if that is realistic. Nance-Holt says no, it's a placeholder amount.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 8/35
@CHIdocumenters Commissioner Nance-Holt says CFD is trying to cut overtime wherever possible. @CFDMedia
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 9/35
@CHIdocumenters CFD says they're applying for more grants than they ever have before, from the federal level to private grants.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 10/35
@CHIdocumenters At the start of 2021, Chicago was allocated $1.887 billion in federal COVID relief funds (ARPA). The city will loose any ARPA funds it doesn't allocate by the end of 2024.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 11/35
@CHIdocumenters Both Ald. Dowell & Ald. Moore asked why CFD didn't qualify for ARPA funds. The department responds that it wasn't a priority locally compared to the city's other departments.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 12/35
@CHIdocumenters The American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) was a $350 billion stimulus package signed into law in 2021, "to deliver comprehensive relief to individuals, businesses, and governments affected by the COVID-19 pandemic."
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 13/35
@CHIdocumenters Mayor Brandon Johnson said, "When I took office, I made it a priority to ensure that federal resources would benefit the communities most impacted by both the pandemic and the long-standing inequities it has intensified..." continued:
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 14/35
@CHIdocumenters "...My administration’s plan for this historic stimulus package includes investing over $576 million in initiatives aimed at assisting Chicago communities recover from the pandemic"—Brandon Johnson. This image shows the budget breakdown of how the city planned to use these funds.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 15/35
@CHIdocumenters To view full annual reports for how the City of Chicago has allocated ARPA funds since 2021, visit: experience.arcgis.com/experience/0f8…
experience.arcgis.com/experience/0f8…
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 16/35
@CHIdocumenters Chair Nicole Lee asks about the impact of promotions on overtime. The commissioner responds that promotions would certainly make an impact, but that overtime challenges are a cyclical issue.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 17/35
@CHIdocumenters 22nd ward Ald. Rodriquez says the department's efforts to diversify hiring "looks better than it is." He requests, through the chair, demographic information on promotions.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 18/35
@CHIdocumenters The department responds that they can't go into detail, but that promotions are an area where they are making progress with Local 2.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 19/35
@CHIdocumenters 40th ward Alder Andre Vasquez asks what the Urban Area Security Initiative is. CFD Assistant Commissioner Bethany Hand says, "it's one of our largest grants." The initiative is part of a counter-terrorist effort by Homeland Security.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 20/35
@CHIdocumenters Alderman Nugent, a well-known anti-immigrant alder, who has called for an "accelerated moving event" of a homeless encampment in her ward, tried to get CFD to say that having a propane tank in a park is illegal, to criminalise homeless people trying to stay warm. @39thWardUnited
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 21/35
@CHIdocumenters Nugent said, "I don't think we should be having homeless encampments at parks." This is coming from the same alder who refused to attend a hearing on the Bring Chicago Home ordinance last year to address rising homelessness in the city. @CHIdocumenters
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 22/35
@CHIdocumenters By refusing to support solutions to homelessness in the city, & trying to both drive out homeless encampments and criminalise homeless people who make fires to stay warm during the winter, Nugent is unashamedly proving herself to be anti-immigrant & anti-homeless. @CHIdocumenters
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 23/35
@CHIdocumenters Alder Jeanette Taylor, 20th ward, expresses concern that CFD is not hiring enough Black firefighters. "It seems like to me... and this is not about commissioner Holt... it's a part of a system that keeps Black people from being firefighters."
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 24/35
@CHIdocumenters Commissioner Nance-Holt agrees, saying that "affirmative action has been struck down by the courts," in all departments... from the fire department to universities. Another CFD rep says, "The courts have deemed it no longer appropriate... along with the DOJ."
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 25/35
@CHIdocumenters Commissioner Nance-Holt says that, under Mayor Harold Washington, the situation was different. But now, CFD has to work excessively hard to recruit people into the department.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 26/35
@CHIdocumenters Ald. Jeanette Taylor asks, why the Fire Advisory Board was never reinstated? A CFD rep shares that the mayor's office is involved in the process of filling that board with the appropriate community representatives. Chair Lee asks for the status of that board through the chair.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 27/35
@CHIdocumenters Alder Taylor also says that no-one ever addressed the fact that applicants to CFD got "failed drug-test results" for a drug test they never took. This was not addressed by the department.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 28/35
@CHIdocumenters The Chicago Fire Department frequently referred to the Urban Area Security Initiative, which, as mentioned before, is a counter-terrorism initiative under the Homeland Security Grant Program. @CHIdocumenters
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 29/35
@CHIdocumenters If you look at the City of Chicago's 2024 Grant Detail, the actual amount the city was granted by the Urban Area Security Initiative (UASI) is not disclosed. @CHIdocumenters chicago.gov/content/dam/ci…
chicago.gov/content/dam/ci…
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 30/35
@CHIdocumenters But if you add up every single line item (coincidentally very spread out and opaque throughout the document) Johnson recommended a total of $169,413,583 be appropriated to various departments throughout the city from the UASI grant. @CHIdocumenters #ChiDocumenters
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 31/35
@CHIdocumenters That means that more than $169 million are being funnelled into the City of Chicago by a grant aimed at "preventing, protecting against, mitigating, responding to and recovering from acts of terrorism and other threats." @CHIdocumenters #ChiDocumenters
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 32/35
@CHIdocumenters Throughout the hearing, several alders asked for information that the department could not share due to ongoing contract negations by Local 2, the Chicago Fire Department Union.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 33/35
@CHIdocumenters Chicago Fire Fighters Union Local 2 has been in a 3-year fight for a new contract that would win them more paramedics, higher pay, and 20 more ambulances. While the city doles out millions in overtime pay for paramedics, they refuse to hire more paramedics. @CHIdocumenters
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 34/35
@CHIdocumenters The Chicago Fire Fighters Union Local 2 applied for a permit to protest at the DNC to raise their contract demands. Their permit was denied twice by the city. @CHIdocumenters #ChiDocumenters @CFDMedia
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 35/35
@CHIdocumenters Paramedics & fire fighers also marched at NASCAR, a month before the DNC, to bring attention to their fight and the fact that they've been working without a contract for years. @CHIdocumenters #ChiDocumenters @CFDMedia
Live reporting by Caeli Kean

The Chicago Fire Department says is engaged in an aggressive recruitment outreach program to youth of color to combat the lack of diversity in the fire department.

Caeli Kean @keancaeli
Good morning, I'll be covering today's 2025 Chicago Budget Hearing for the Chicago Fire Department, for @CHIdocumenters

10:24 AM Nov 19, 2024 CST

Caeli Kean @keancaeli 2/35
See the 2025 Chicago Fire Department Budget Recommendations here, on page 356: #ChiDocumenters @CHIDocumenters chicago.gov/content/dam/ci…
chicago.gov/content/dam/ci…
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 3/35
@CHIdocumenters Fire Commissioner Annette Nance-Holt began with an overview presentation of CFD's budget. The floor is now open for alders to pose questions to the commissioner.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 4/35
@CHIdocumenters 3rd ward Alder Pat Dowell expresses concern over possible medical leave abuse. Dowell says she learned there were over 237 fire personnel on lay-up (or medical status), amounting to around 5% of the dept. At the same time, Dowell says, their overtime cost has gone up.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 5/35
@CHIdocumenters Alder Dowell asks if a data analyst will be hired for the department, and the commissioner confirms that a data analyst is under the recommendations for new hires in 2025.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 6/35
@CHIdocumenters Ald. Dowell asks about whether CFD's contract accounts for more personnel in ambulances and trucks, and the paramedic shortage. Nance-Holt responds that she can't speak on Local 2 negotiations, but that CFD does need more personnel in the trucks, to account for injury + time off.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 7/35
@CHIdocumenters 1st Ward Alder La Spata noted 2023 expenditures for overtime was around $77 million. La Spata points out the 2025 budget for only half the year is $45 million, and asks if that is realistic. Nance-Holt says no, it's a placeholder amount.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 8/35
@CHIdocumenters Commissioner Nance-Holt says CFD is trying to cut overtime wherever possible. @CFDMedia
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 9/35
@CHIdocumenters CFD says they're applying for more grants than they ever have before, from the federal level to private grants.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 10/35
@CHIdocumenters At the start of 2021, Chicago was allocated $1.887 billion in federal COVID relief funds (ARPA). The city will loose any ARPA funds it doesn't allocate by the end of 2024.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 11/35
@CHIdocumenters Both Ald. Dowell & Ald. Moore asked why CFD didn't qualify for ARPA funds. The department responds that it wasn't a priority locally compared to the city's other departments.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 12/35
@CHIdocumenters The American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) was a $350 billion stimulus package signed into law in 2021, "to deliver comprehensive relief to individuals, businesses, and governments affected by the COVID-19 pandemic."
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 13/35
@CHIdocumenters Mayor Brandon Johnson said, "When I took office, I made it a priority to ensure that federal resources would benefit the communities most impacted by both the pandemic and the long-standing inequities it has intensified..." continued:
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 14/35
@CHIdocumenters "...My administration’s plan for this historic stimulus package includes investing over $576 million in initiatives aimed at assisting Chicago communities recover from the pandemic"—Brandon Johnson. This image shows the budget breakdown of how the city planned to use these funds.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 15/35
@CHIdocumenters To view full annual reports for how the City of Chicago has allocated ARPA funds since 2021, visit: experience.arcgis.com/experience/0f8…
experience.arcgis.com/experience/0f8…
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 16/35
@CHIdocumenters Chair Nicole Lee asks about the impact of promotions on overtime. The commissioner responds that promotions would certainly make an impact, but that overtime challenges are a cyclical issue.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 17/35
@CHIdocumenters 22nd ward Ald. Rodriquez says the department's efforts to diversify hiring "looks better than it is." He requests, through the chair, demographic information on promotions.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 18/35
@CHIdocumenters The department responds that they can't go into detail, but that promotions are an area where they are making progress with Local 2.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 19/35
@CHIdocumenters 40th ward Alder Andre Vasquez asks what the Urban Area Security Initiative is. CFD Assistant Commissioner Bethany Hand says, "it's one of our largest grants." The initiative is part of a counter-terrorist effort by Homeland Security.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 20/35
@CHIdocumenters Alderman Nugent, a well-known anti-immigrant alder, who has called for an "accelerated moving event" of a homeless encampment in her ward, tried to get CFD to say that having a propane tank in a park is illegal, to criminalise homeless people trying to stay warm. @39thWardUnited
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 21/35
@CHIdocumenters Nugent said, "I don't think we should be having homeless encampments at parks." This is coming from the same alder who refused to attend a hearing on the Bring Chicago Home ordinance last year to address rising homelessness in the city. @CHIdocumenters
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 22/35
@CHIdocumenters By refusing to support solutions to homelessness in the city, & trying to both drive out homeless encampments and criminalise homeless people who make fires to stay warm during the winter, Nugent is unashamedly proving herself to be anti-immigrant & anti-homeless. @CHIdocumenters
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 23/35
@CHIdocumenters Alder Jeanette Taylor, 20th ward, expresses concern that CFD is not hiring enough Black firefighters. "It seems like to me... and this is not about commissioner Holt... it's a part of a system that keeps Black people from being firefighters."
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 24/35
@CHIdocumenters Commissioner Nance-Holt agrees, saying that "affirmative action has been struck down by the courts," in all departments... from the fire department to universities. Another CFD rep says, "The courts have deemed it no longer appropriate... along with the DOJ."
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 25/35
@CHIdocumenters Commissioner Nance-Holt says that, under Mayor Harold Washington, the situation was different. But now, CFD has to work excessively hard to recruit people into the department.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 26/35
@CHIdocumenters Ald. Jeanette Taylor asks, why the Fire Advisory Board was never reinstated? A CFD rep shares that the mayor's office is involved in the process of filling that board with the appropriate community representatives. Chair Lee asks for the status of that board through the chair.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 27/35
@CHIdocumenters Alder Taylor also says that no-one ever addressed the fact that applicants to CFD got "failed drug-test results" for a drug test they never took. This was not addressed by the department.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 28/35
@CHIdocumenters The Chicago Fire Department frequently referred to the Urban Area Security Initiative, which, as mentioned before, is a counter-terrorism initiative under the Homeland Security Grant Program. @CHIdocumenters
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 29/35
@CHIdocumenters If you look at the City of Chicago's 2024 Grant Detail, the actual amount the city was granted by the Urban Area Security Initiative (UASI) is not disclosed. @CHIdocumenters chicago.gov/content/dam/ci…
chicago.gov/content/dam/ci…
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 30/35
@CHIdocumenters But if you add up every single line item (coincidentally very spread out and opaque throughout the document) Johnson recommended a total of $169,413,583 be appropriated to various departments throughout the city from the UASI grant. @CHIdocumenters #ChiDocumenters
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 31/35
@CHIdocumenters That means that more than $169 million are being funnelled into the City of Chicago by a grant aimed at "preventing, protecting against, mitigating, responding to and recovering from acts of terrorism and other threats." @CHIdocumenters #ChiDocumenters
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 32/35
@CHIdocumenters Throughout the hearing, several alders asked for information that the department could not share due to ongoing contract negations by Local 2, the Chicago Fire Department Union.
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 33/35
@CHIdocumenters Chicago Fire Fighters Union Local 2 has been in a 3-year fight for a new contract that would win them more paramedics, higher pay, and 20 more ambulances. While the city doles out millions in overtime pay for paramedics, they refuse to hire more paramedics. @CHIdocumenters
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 34/35
@CHIdocumenters The Chicago Fire Fighters Union Local 2 applied for a permit to protest at the DNC to raise their contract demands. Their permit was denied twice by the city. @CHIdocumenters #ChiDocumenters @CFDMedia
Caeli Kean @keancaeli 35/35
@CHIdocumenters Paramedics & fire fighers also marched at NASCAR, a month before the DNC, to bring attention to their fight and the fact that they've been working without a contract for years. @CHIdocumenters #ChiDocumenters @CFDMedia

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